tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025450382304524589.post5612752911517339484..comments2013-01-22T05:54:32.402-08:00Comments on Gothic Tuba Experience: Day 13 - Lucky for some!John Szkutkohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05131329322103687514noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025450382304524589.post-48423100535774762542010-12-18T15:53:00.655-08:002010-12-18T15:53:00.655-08:00No idea about the bass oboe mate, but i'd hazz...No idea about the bass oboe mate, but i'd hazzard a guess with Alpine SymphonyJohn Szkutkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05131329322103687514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025450382304524589.post-6337718714263480292010-12-18T14:04:38.026-08:002010-12-18T14:04:38.026-08:00Are you talking about the Planets there Adrian?Are you talking about the Planets there Adrian?Simon Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622866172065326529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025450382304524589.post-34774153853219245372010-12-18T05:12:48.203-08:002010-12-18T05:12:48.203-08:00Contrabassoons, that is.
Have you worked out what ...Contrabassoons, that is.<br />Have you worked out what the work is that requires a bass oboe?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01351079056580254083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025450382304524589.post-35647921681443746812010-12-18T05:08:43.814-08:002010-12-18T05:08:43.814-08:00Some of the harp stuff i knew already(like the rin...Some of the harp stuff i knew already(like the ring cycle), but the contrabassoon stuff was just off the top of my head.<br /><br />I knew there was another one- and it's taken me half the night to remember: the last movement of Mahler's tenth symphony (the Derryk Crooke version) calls for two as well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01351079056580254083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025450382304524589.post-49592868486192076652010-12-18T03:43:37.441-08:002010-12-18T03:43:37.441-08:00To be honest, I thought that everything you wrote ...To be honest, I thought that everything you wrote you just poured out from your brain in an instant. Then I read your article and realised you actually did some research. <br /><br />Wow, who would have thought so many harps were ever needed.John Szkutkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05131329322103687514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025450382304524589.post-80834572934471674582010-12-18T01:29:53.586-08:002010-12-18T01:29:53.586-08:00Two contrabassoons is actually rarer than massed h...Two contrabassoons is actually rarer than massed harps (oh I like the sound of massed harps. Not the actual sound- just the words "massed" and "harps" side by side. Lol!)<br /><br />I can only think a few works that are well known that require two contrabassoons: Stravinsky's "The Rite of Spring", the revised orchestration of Schoenberg's "Five pieces for orchestra" (which replaces the contrabass clarinet that he called for in the original scoring of the work), and his massive but highly Wagnerian (and accessible) "Gurrelieder" (in my opinion, a potential candidate for the Gothic Symphony experience part 2- if ever a thing were to happen at the end of next year).<br /><br />Massed harps are much more common, and very often in a work, such as Berlioz's "Symphonie Fantastique", were only two harp parts are visible, the composer very often wanted to double up the parts (thus giving four for the Berlioz). Here's some other ones that I've knew about, and a several more that I discovered through the following site (www.harpcolumn.com)...<br /><br />1. Berlioz, Hector - Symphonie fantastique, op.14 (Fantastic Symphony) 4 harps [2 real parts]<br />2. Berlioz, Hector - Te Deum, op.22: Marche pour la présentation des drapeaux (March for the Presentation of the Colors) 12hp[1 real part] <br />3. Gounod, Charles - Messe solennelle (St. Cecilia) 6hp[1 real part] —<br />4. Mahler, Gustav - Das klagende Lied (original version in 3 mvts) 6hp[2real parts] <br />5. Saint-Saëns, Camille - Requiem, op.54 4hp[2 real parts] <br />6. Saint-Saëns, Camille - Symphony No.1, op.2, E-flat major <br />4hp[1 real part]<br />7. Schoenberg, Arnold - Gurre-Lieder 4hp <br />8. Wagner, Richard - Götterdämmerung: Brünnhilde’s Immolation 6hp[2parts] <br />9. Wagner, Richard - Götterdämmerung: Siegfried's Funeral Music (Trauermarsch; Siegfried's Tod) 6hp[2parts]<br /><br />10. Stravinsky Scherzo Fantastique 3 harps [3 real parts]<br />11. Stravinsky Firebird Ballet 3 harps [3 real parts]<br /><br />There are many more apparently.<br /><br />Maybe we should follow this up with some ramblings a bit later on about the oboe d'amore, bass oboe, contrabass clarinet, basset horn, etc? You and I will probably get to see the bass oboe again next year, John, when we do that very well known work that requires one (there- that should keep him thinking for a while).<br /><br />I should probably rant about the bass trumpet, too, since I've a bit of a bias towards it.<br /><br />A.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01351079056580254083noreply@blogger.com